Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:31:18 -0700 (MST) From: Brett Taylor <brett@peloton.physics.montana.edu> To: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Cc: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com>, Adam Turoff <aturoff@isinet.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Ports Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9903091204120.20575-100000@peloton.physics.montana.edu> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990309092847.04176b50@localhost>
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Hi,
On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Brett Glass wrote:
> Again, it should be possible to make this part of maintaining a port,
> so that it happens "automagically" (or pretty much so). I've suggested
> some ways to do it, but I don't "own" that code and am probably not
> the best person to modify it -- at least not without consultation. Who
> owns the code for:
Let me answer these since apparently you're too lazy to look for yourself
(gee, just look at the source or use anoncvs)
> The package manager?
Satoshi Asami (asami@freebsd.org) That said they are actively working on
package manager II - you may have to talk to Jordan about that as I don't
recall everyone who is working on it.
> The Linux emulation module?
Soren Schmidt appears to be the main man here (looking at the CVS logs and
/usr/src/lkm/linux/linux.c). (sos@freebsd.org)
> The utilities that the port maintainers use to prepare ports for
> publication?
Satoshi Asami (asami@freebsd.org)
> Yes, this is a volunteer project. And since the FreeBSD Project prides
> itself on professionalism, it should be more than willing to add that
> "professional edge" to what it does.
What do you mean by "professionalism"? Should Microsoft still support
people who are running Windows 3.1 and who can't run the 98 version of
Notepad? That's essentially what you want, except Notepad is a MS
product. The ports are software independent from the FreeBSD project.
Face facts - FreeBSD has switched to ELF. Most ports (even the current,
CVSup'ed today) will still compile fine on 2.2.8 systems provided you add
the ports_update package for 2.2.8, but some will not (I still have one
machine running 2.2.8-STABLE). One example that will not is libgtop
(needed for Gnome stuff) - it will not compile on 2.2.8 wo/ some really
major tweaking.
Again, I'm sure if you want to start the "new ports for people running old
releases" Satoshi would be MORE than happy to have you. Go talk to him or
Soren. Write some code. Do some work. Give back to FreeBSD if you
really care that much about it succeeding. I'm sure there are lots of
people who will be happy to see it too.
For some reason though I won't be holding my breath waiting for you to
actually do anything.
Brett Taylor
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